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peterson
Posted 15/10/2008 @ 23:32 View all peterson's posts

Alonso is and will always be a sad and hateful individual.It's ,now, quite obvious that he hasn't been unfairly treated by the McLaren Mercedes team. He's a damn liar who thinks he's unbeatable whom the only problem in his own team was ... Hamilton. The rookie that beat him with an identical car. Fair-play(word used worlwide) is definitely not part of his language.

spdguru
Posted 15/10/2008 @ 14:00 View all spdguru's posts

daveyboy, you surely have to be really ignorant and still believe in fairy tales to still be hanging to that story. And by the way, FA was not beat by LH, the tied, in a season, where FA was penalized by the FIA from following team orders, and were more WC than Hamilton in the last race, but McLaren did not pull it off because the were so stubborn they still thought they could bring Lewis to the WC after the mess he did twice in the race. McLaren stopped having class a long time ago... the biggest mistake FA ever did was going to McLaren, but who can blame him, apart from Ferrari, it is still the 2nd biggest name in F1.

lergt
Posted 15/10/2008 @ 09:23 View all lergt's posts

this 2 nuts are going to hit the wall in the next 2 races

biso9700
Posted 15/10/2008 @ 02:59 View all biso9700's posts

DarkDefender Think u will find that fixing results in ANYWAY! in sport is ILLEGAL! making comments like that also bring the sport into disrepute! if there is now a coming together between alonso and hamilton, it could be seen as alonso FIXING the result for his or 3rd parties financial gain! again impeding 1 driver 2 the advantage of another is against rules in F1, remember the team orders stuff a few years back?

daveyboy33i
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 23:41 View all daveyboy33i's posts

To spdguru... is it a surprise the way Alonso left McLaren? Alonso threatened to tell the FIA that McLaren had the "spygate" document if he wasn't given Number 1 status, he tried to blackmail his own team! He was beaten by a rookie, and he couldnt take it, he threw all of his toys out of his pram, showing what a BAD sport he is.

daveyboy33i
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 23:37 View all daveyboy33i's posts

Will the FIA look at this if, and i say IF, Alonso runs Hamilton off the track, and see it as premeditated???

m130efe
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 20:20 View all m130efe's posts

nelly76 you seem to be forgetting that Hamilton has come straight in to F1 from GP2 driving one of the fastest cars on the grid, I would be very worried if he hadn't done as well as he has driving a Mclaren! Massa started his F1 career driving a less than competitive Sauber for three seasons before joining Ferrari, Schumacher made his debut in a Jordan and then moved to Benetton at a time when the technologically superior Williams was dominant, Raikkonen's first season in F1 was at the Sauber team and then he moved to Mclaren at a time when they were not as quick as they are now and Schumache and Ferrari ruled the roost, Alonso started his F1 career in a slow and unreliable Minardi, Senna started his F1 career at Toleman, a team which competed in only 70 races (starting only 57 of them) between 1981 and 1985 and never won a race. All of these drivers have had to work there way from the back or midfield to get into race winning, championship contending teams, the only driver that hasn't had to do that is Lewis Hamilton! And, as spdguru says, the most important stat that counts in assessing the greatness of any driver is how many world championships they have won and right now Hamilton hasn't won any!

edzio
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 18:59 View all edzio's posts

Everybody needs to calm down and stop taking this all so seriously. So Alonso doesn't want Lewis to win the title, can you blame him following the way he was treated by Mclaren last season? As for Massa not being a good enough driver to challenge for the title, I think the points table shows it differently. Lewis hasn't done himself any favours with the other drivers or with unbiased fans. As for the gentleman stating that Fernando is a "spanish spoil sport" to quote, I'd like to point out how Lewis has thrown his metaphorical toys out of his pram this season on more than one occasion, and also how he initially ran away from the circuit on Sunday straight after the race. If he wants to be a true champion then he needs to start acting like one. You wouldn't have seen Schumacher behaving in such a way. As for the title, I hope that Robert Kubica shows them both up and gets rewarded for being the most consistant despite not having the best car on the grid. As for Alonso moving to Ferrari in 2010, who's to say it won't be an Alonso and Kubica partnership?

Robbie08
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 17:50 View all Robbie08's posts

oh dear Alonso is still pissed after last year at McLaren where he was constantly outpaced by Hammy, and the fact he didn't get the 3rd WC, that' he'll do anything to prevent Hammy winning the title, i'm sorry but that to me just Alonso being childish and unsportsman like

spdguru
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 14:54 View all spdguru's posts

To nelly 76. Since you like stats: WC, Massa - none, Schumi - seven, Kimi - one, Alonso - two, Senna - three, Hamilton - NONE.

nelly76
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 14:35 View all nelly76's posts

THe stats speak for them selfs Career Points Win Starts Points starts Felipe Massa 10 103 280 2.7 Schmacher 91 250 1369 5.4 Kimi Raikonen 17 138 519 3.8 Fernando Alonso 21 121 538 4.4 Ayrton Senna 41 162 610 3.7 Lewis Hamilton 8 33 193 5.8

spdguru
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 14:17 View all spdguru's posts

Dude, i will like to know from where do you understood Alonso said he would do anything he can to help Massa. The story you refer tom in As exactly reads as follows : Would you help massa in the Title fight? Yes, without a doubt, if I can help, I will help Massa. That's about it in the whole article, so much for the anything I can. And since you get the stories from As, why not mention that Kubica ask Alonso for his help and he said that he would help him too if he can. What did you expect, that he would remain imparcial against McLaren after the way they parted ways. Stop the hype, and get the stories straight.

pigeon
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 13:40 View all pigeon's posts

I bet most of the writers for PF1 are craving a job on Fleet Street. With that kind of headline you guys are well on your way!

I_say_Chaps
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 11:11 View all I_say_Chaps's posts

"inaudible" what the hell has a degree got to do with Journalism. Some of the most stupid people (that probably includes you ) have degrees. Nowadays degrees are like A**hles (you know the rest) do you honestly believe Alonso was kidding when he made that statement (or something close to it)Both Alonso & Massa have this "Latin Temperment" crap and Alsonso is obviously storing up favours and gathering brownie points for when he achieves his destiny and is sitting in a Ferarri next to Massa.He'll need a subserveant No.2 what better way to achieve it than calling in "Favours". Lets face it IF(and its a big if) massa does get handed the title this year, it will be his on and only chance, he has neither the Skills or the intestinal fortitude to do it again without a massive helping hand from Ferraris friends in the big tower.Somehow I suspect after the mauling the FIA has taken this year even they will have to pull their neck in next year. Say what you will "INAUDIBLE" but PF1 or No PF1 the facts speak for themselves. in the words of the prophet Omar Kyam "In the land of the Blind, The one-eyed man is King" So you should make sure you have a good supply of eye patches

DarkDefender
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 10:59 View all DarkDefender's posts

"It hasn't changed. You're refering to the front page headline." PF1 are replying now, which is good. Although my question was completely dodged. OK through a slight inaccuracy I asked why the title had changed when I really should have referred to it as the front page headline. And the reason?

In answer to your question as to why the front-page headline changed, this is what happens when we move a different story to top billing. So, for instance, it would be somewhat inappropriate to keep 'Dennis Says Hamilton Should Be More Prudent' as the front-page headline when the story, picture and the blurb is changed to be about Fernando Alonso. So we changed the headline. Happy to help.

geoff
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 10:45 View all geoff's posts

Spoken like a true Ferrari driver! Go Alonso!

jpbm
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 10:29 View all jpbm's posts

Perhaps we should be looking beyond this piece of stupidity, if Alonso helps his best friend Massa to win the World Championship. What happens when Alonso goes to Ferrari (which no doubt he will ) He will want number one status and preference ,and Massa as a champion will not want to be sub servant to him. We could have an even better conflict than that of Lewis Alonso McLaren in 2007. Or will it be Massa on your bike my friend.

inaudible
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 10:26 View all inaudible's posts

"TS NO GOOD SHOOTING THE MESSENGER, PF1 ARE ONLY REPORTING WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW AND PROBABLY DON'T GO FAR ENOUGH." yelerichard" Are you stupid? They are NOT, Alonso was laughing in that interview when he said Hamilton deserved the penalty, it was meant to be a joke, funny how PF1 left that part out. Pathetic journalism if you can call it that I bet the guy who wrote this doesn't have any degree.

cRaZyTeRrIbLe
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 10:22 View all cRaZyTeRrIbLe's posts

Once again, Alonso is showing his true colours. He obviously still hasn't found the dummy he threw out of his pram last year. In spite of Mclaren's internal bias, confirmed by DC. Alonso was beaten at several races by a rookie last year - and by Hungary he'd cracked. One of the best racing drivers in recent history, I agree. But a very poor sportsman. I believe this vindicates Hamilton from any agressive passing on Alonso that he does, or has done. If he pussy-foots around, Alonso will cause him grief, as he has done this year already (without penalty). I think Lewis knows this. It seems that Ferrari are a shoe-in for the title now - and for a few years to come. First the Stewards; Then Luca D heading FOTA; then Jean Todt's possible appointment to the maFIA!! Now they have another driver on the track! And If people push too hard for an expert steward, it'll probably be Michael Schumacher!!!

igor
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 10:12 View all igor's posts

Do you know the movie 'Lost in Translation'? There was a missing joke: the press miss-translating. The press have only to translate one way or the other to make someone appear evil. Fortunately, Hamilton does not have this handicap (he does not make press statements in a foreign language), and the mistakes are all his, and the press only has to omit the sentence. Anyhow, here it does from a Spanish newspaper the sentence: >>Si puedo ayudar, ayudaré a Massa", afirmó ayer de forma categórica un Fernando Alonso que se mostró de acuerdo con la sanción a Hamilton. "No vi nada, pero estoy de acuerdo", dijo con acento socarrón.<<

I_say_Chaps
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 10:11 View all I_say_Chaps's posts

Don't know why some of you morons on here are critisinG PF1 Seem they are the only publication to speak openly about what so many of us feeling.I can see by reading the posts that it is mainly the Anti-Hamilton Brigade Wwho is doing most of the Bleeting. Massa has been given an inordinate amount of help by the MA-FIA. Now you have Alsonso(no surprise there) Jumping in to say his 10 bobs worth. I personally don't see PF1 as being pro-Hamilton just and anti-injustice. Fiarrari Supporters should be ashamed to win a WDC that is so tainted. It seems like there ia an unwritten rule "thou shalt not pass a red Scuderia on the track.. so unless they screw it up like they did in Singapore no one has a chance. There are 3 glaring Massa penalties this year that indicates the FIA bias towards Ferrari. Valencia,Singapore,(EXACT SAME INFRACTION 2 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PENALTIES AWARDED)Massa hits Bordias but the stewards ignore Charlie Whiting and slap Bordias Not Massa with a 25sec penalty after the race even though there was 16 laps to go. In Singapore when it did not matter they acessed the penalty on Massa immediately (but they managed to delay an obvious drive through on Rosberg till it didn't matter). You would have to be a full fantic Freak to say that the FIA are not doing all they can to help Ferrari..So no wonder its only the Ferrari Fans who accuse PF1 of Bias.ITS NO GOOD SHOOTING THE MESSENGER, PF1 ARE ONLY REPORTING WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW AND PROBABLY DON'T GO FAR ENOUGH.

yelerichard
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 10:03 View all yelerichard's posts

hamiltonto, you got me wrong there. I'm not talking about the 2 world champions Alonso won, I meant the last 2 races(Singapore and Japanese Grand Prix). I can see u really know much about F1, congratulation mate!

inaudible
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 09:57 View all inaudible's posts

This is pathetic, he was laughing in that interview and that was meant to be a joke. You journalists have as much integrity as Team Mchamilton. PATHETIC

fe22ari
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 09:47 View all fe22ari's posts

What a creep! Shouldn't there something in the sporting regs to prevent this kind of thing? How can a driver race for one team yet help another "competitor" win? You're not supposed to do that even if its your own team mate (team orders rule), or does it not apply if it is not your team but one you desparately want to drive for. Great driver and everything but I would not want this guy in my team, a nasty piece of work in my opinion.

DarkDefender
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 09:17 View all DarkDefender's posts

PF1 - Why has the title of this "story" changed to "Bitter Alonso: 'I'll Help Massa Win Title'"?

It hasn't changed. You're refering to the front page headline.

scorpion81177
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 09:14 View all scorpion81177's posts

These planet F1 pages have become nothing but propaganda. What on earth are you journos trying achieve with headlines like Bitter Alonso. Everyone in motor racing knows he is the best driver by far on the grid so please stop trying to bring him down by taking comments out of context. And who would blame him anyway after being shafted by McLaren. P.S. Foxy, your the petty little Hamiltion Fanboy pr**k.

ElvisBeavis
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 08:26 View all ElvisBeavis's posts

How desperate is Alonso to get the Ferrari drive? So much so that he's decided he's already driving for them in his Renault. Maybe Alonso will suggest that a Brazilian FIA official be posted at Mclaren to keep his eye on Lewis. As Massa is the protege of Shuey it's no wonder he needs help to win a title. He certainly has the overly beneficial FIA decisions going his way but with the absence of the compliant team mate he'll need Alonso to fill that role.

MoNercy
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 08:18 View all MoNercy's posts

You may all think Alonso is quite immature for making this statement, but the guy is only in his twenties and has been exposed to little else but competitive racing his whole life. Driving for McLaren was his dream and in the space of half a season, it was shattered. Whether or not he was unfairly treated isn't my call, but from his eyes, he was getting screwed. Combine this with the fact that Alonso wants to get into a Ferrari himself someday and it's not such a silly idea after all. How can the same people who applaude Hamilton for speaking frankly with the press ("Kimi doesn't have the balls to brake late")criticise Alonso for doing the same ("If given the choice and opportunity, I'd help Felipe")?

foxy
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 08:12 View all foxy's posts

Alonso is just proving what a petty little pr**k he is. He couldn't beat Lewis on the track in the same car, so he tried to blackmail Ron into making him no.1, which was never going to work. Now a year later he's still sucking sour grapes, and has promised to help Massa in any way he can. Maybe it's time now for Nick Fry to name his drivers for next season, cos it's plain he's not going to cop for Alonso, he's obviously trying to get a seat in a red car, as he's promised to act as their de-facto no.3 driver. Kimmi's not even out of his seat yet and this little shit is laying the groundwork for his move to ferrari.Petty pr**k. Grow up!!!

grell
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 06:50 View all grell's posts

It does the heart good to see some of the highest paid sportsman in the world behaving like 12 year olds. Perhaps a good spanking and then sent to their rooms would help. Though with the current amateurish behaviour of race officials whats the point. Think I will change to NASCAR>

dezbo1960
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 05:58 View all dezbo1960's posts

this doesn't even warrant a comment, alonso and massa, a match made in heaven, always knew they had a relationship, tell you what, sign both of em for honda then they can hold hands and have tender kisses, give the ferrari seat to say vettel, and then maybe just maybe people will like ferrari again, what a pathetic and stupid soft sod alonso is

maratsafin
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 02:59 View all maratsafin's posts

Alonso should just help himself. Making statements like "Yes, no doubt, if I can help, I will help Massa," just makes him look very very silly.

biazza
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 01:54 View all biazza's posts

Alonso to help Massa win the championship...is planning on running into him when Hamilton passes him! I'm sure the stewards will find Hamilton at fault in such a situation!!!!

hamiltonto
Posted 14/10/2008 @ 00:44 View all hamiltonto's posts

Yelerichard, Alonso a LUCKY WINNER? Alonso is a double world champion (driving a RENAULT)versus Michael (the best ever F1 driver on a Ferrari.IF media boy win the title this year he will do it versus cannot drive in the wet Felipe, a cannot care less Kimi, i will not be on your way Heiki, my car was shit Alonso, etc, it is ok to be a LH fan, but please don't talk rubish, you know as much about F1 as I do about cricket 0.

J_Ke
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 23:37 View all J_Ke's posts

Why do the pro-Hamilton/anti-Alonso fans insist that Hamilton blew Alonso away last year? They finished on the same number of points and in the 17 races over the season, Alonso finished in front of Hamilton 10 times. Hamilton finished above Alonso in the championship because of count back on 2nd placed finishes. Being fastest doesn't necessarily make a World Champion.

bucha
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 23:14 View all bucha's posts

This is absolutely unprecedented and uncalled for. Hamilton fights Alonso in order to avoid being overlapped at the end of the Japanese GP and Alonso does the mature thing by letting him go by. Just when you think Alonso may have reached a decent level of sophistication, he comes out and says something as stupid as this. Raikkonen, World Champion isn't being able to pull of the stunt properly, and here comes the guy in Renault wanting to be a part of everything uninvited. Alonso may win more races this season and the next, but publically announcing something he won't even be capable of, only makes Massa's Championship look silly, as if he's being helped by everyone on the grid.

bucha
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 23:14 View all bucha's posts

This is absolutely unprecedented and uncalled for. Hamilton fights Alonso in order to avoid being overlapped at the end of the Japanese GP and Alonso does the mature thing by letting him go by. Just when you think Alonso may have reached a decent level of sophistication, he comes out and says something as stupid as this. Raikkonen, World Champion isn't being able to pull of the stunt properly, and here comes the guy in Renault wanting to be a part of everything uninvited. Alonso may win more races this season and the next, but publically announcing something he won't even be capable of, only makes Massa's Championship look silly, as if he's being helped by everyone on the grid.

stuart49
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 22:45 View all stuart49's posts

Alonso doesn't have to help Massa. the FIA and it's stooges are already helping Massa every chance they get. Alonso left McLaren, or he would be in Hamiltons place.If Hamilton was driving a Ferrari he would have had the title sown up already, Bernie would have seen to that!

robson
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 22:13 View all robson's posts

i hope fernando puts his words into action. there are many subtle things he can do to help ferrari & one day he may be repaid by joining them. hamilton must be stopped one way or another -he has brought the sport into disrepute

franklin
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 21:02 View all franklin's posts

it's plain that the 2 season f1 followers are fans of the lucky rookie hamilton, and have no idea of the skill of alonso, just to fill u in he won 2 world titles back to back in a renault. he has more driver skill than hamilton will ever have,just ask mike schumacher,he also keeps his head when the going gets tough

MICHAEL12
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 20:35 View all MICHAEL12's posts

drakonid_hart I think you should check out some of your facts, Lewis has had a very good grounding in motor racing,from Carting to F1 Eveen beeting some of his co/drivers that are now in F1 also.Well done dennis for seeing the potential in a great diver at an early age.

britphil
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 20:32 View all britphil's posts

Alonso, just shows what a spoil sport Spaniard he is. And has always been. Sad bast***d.

Colzer
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 20:24 View all Colzer's posts

you cant expect Alonso to help Hamilton out after the way he behaved towards him when they were team mates at Mclaren.

challenge360
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 18:34 View all challenge360's posts

More power to Alonso to mess Hamiltons chances up. This guy is without a shadow of a doubt the best driver, if anyone can mess hamilton up its him. To all the pro Hamilton fans i think its time you realise the guys not mature enough nor has the talent of drivers in lesser cars. Cmon Massa my son

timem1
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 17:51 View all timem1's posts

jschmitz, your right..my bad...I didn't check my facts...I guess from reading this board I've fallen victim to the indoctrination of all Hamilton all the time..I still think the second half of my post is accurate though, ;)

valiant
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 17:46 View all valiant's posts

Fernando should help his friend Robert. It would be the proof of their friendship.

wolf
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 17:36 View all wolf's posts

Why hasn't anybody commented on the fact that Massa has managed to score good points coming from behind, while Hamilton has had poor lap times and been unable to pass anybody? Wasn't that the main argument against Felipe?

naranjo
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 17:23 View all naranjo's posts

Madrid Calling!!! You Hamilton Fans!!! Read the full translated article!!! What pees me off, is the way you hammer Alonso. Christ he gave an honest interview! You Brits, so PC. You can think it but you can´t say it, because it might offend. He didn´t say anything out of order. He prefers that Massa (Kubica) wins the title, wants wrong with that. Just like the whole World about from the UK. How about Ron´s comments last year, they were racing Alonso not Ferrai. Well! What do you expect. Viva Espańa! Viva Fernando!

Intrepid
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 17:22 View all Intrepid's posts

Isn't this type of comment from Fernando considered "bringing the sport into disrepute" ? It looks almost as if he is somehow colluding with Ferrari. By the way I am an alsonso fan as well as a Lewis and McLaren fan, but it is a question that needs to be asked.

n0b0dy
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 17:17 View all n0b0dy's posts

That's hilarious!

vinchenzison
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 17:05 View all vinchenzison's posts

Can someone tell me how many people have been injured or died because of LH driving??

ctdurf
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 16:57 View all ctdurf's posts

Personally I think we all owe Seb a great debt of gratitude . Look at the amount of outrage and disbelief there is over him being penalised for only being two wheels on the curb in his attempt to leave Massa room . Just think , if he hadn't been there how hard and deep the FIA would had to have dug to find a way to penalize someone ...anyone ... to promote Massa . If that had had to happen there would be an even bigger , louder , and more virulent ruckus over the even more stupid and outrageous "reason" for whatever they used as an excuse instead . So I say "Thanks Seb , for taking one for all of us . Job well done !"

tttulio
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 16:31 View all tttulio's posts

He should help Hamilton, after all if it wasn't for Lewis silly first corner, he wouldn't have won th Japanese Grand Prix. Tulio

yelerichard
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 16:23 View all yelerichard's posts

Childish, poor Alonso! Lucky winner of 2 races and he can't keep his mouth shot. Does Alonso think he will be on th podium for the 2 races he won? NO! but he was lucky cuz of LH mistakes. Masa will overtake Alonso easy yesterday and will be battling with Kovi for the 3rd. The most Alonso will get will be 5th or 4th cuz of what happened to Kovi's car. To those LH haters out there, what else do you want from this guy? People are saying LH is an average driver but because he started his F1 career with a better car he think is better than other drivers. What about last year when Alonso was driving in the same car? The Pro Alonso were saying LH will suffer without Alonso in Maclaren cuz he can't do the car setting, but he proved them wrong. All what Alonso fans have to say is LH was favoured by Maclaren cuz they didn't give Alonso prefential treatment over LH. Give them the same car any day or time LH will have Alonso in his back pocket. What about Heiki Kova; he was brought in after Alonso, LH said he want equal treatment between them. But does Kovi outdone LH? NO! Bring on Vettel, Nico Rosberg, Kubica, Alonso with Ferari without FIA help etc... Hamilton will still have the edge over them. You can hate him but you can't take his racing ability away from him! Mind you Alonso did win the 2 races because of the mistakes in the front row, he's not a deserved winner as some people put it, he's a LUCKY WINNER! Fair enough he got to the front cuz of the mistake of others and he didn't make any mistake. But if you are going to say he's a great driver; he will come from 3rd or 4th overtake other 2 or 3 drivers in front of him and win the race, but can he do it? NO he can't, he doesn't have the balls.

drakonid_hart
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 16:08 View all drakonid_hart's posts

Hamilton is a snot nosed idiot who has not paid his dues. He have a tinist margin of talent over the other rookies, but the huge margin of luck that he got picked by McLaren is what made him into the most successful 'beginner' of F1. So hamilton, it isnt you. its anybody, but you.

graining
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 16:05 View all graining's posts

I don't think its fair for other drivers to gang up on one single driver i mean I've never been a Hamilton fan ever but i think Massa is a cocky git also. His comments yesterday when he said Bourdais and Hamilton were at fault was just plain ignorant but on the other hand i can understand where Alonso is coming from. Also Massa proved yesterday why so many people believe he should not be champion.

Buffy
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 15:55 View all Buffy's posts

This is so funny. I am amazed how easy it is to wind up Hamilton supporters, you are all crying for Alonso's hanging already, READ THE INTERVIEW HE GAVE BEFORE YOU RIP HIS HEAD OFF... Honestly.

DarkDefender
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 15:52 View all DarkDefender's posts

Jesus Christ, pulled up in front of the FIA for a comment? Drivers are allowed to do that anyway, it's within the rules. Not exactly the most sporting thing to do, but then again McLaren's treatment of Alonso last season wasn't sporting either. If Alonso said he'd consider pushing Hamilton off the track, then yes you'd have a point. It's OK though, Hamilton will "do his talking on the track" and "rise above" this, while "moving on" and "doing his job" - at which he's the best, we're led to believe.

Bannor
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 15:51 View all Bannor's posts

Doesn't Alonso have dreams of one day joining Ferrari?.....

Halifaxf1fan
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 15:42 View all Halifaxf1fan's posts

Way to go Alonso! The entire non-UK F1 world is on your side.

finishline
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 15:38 View all finishline's posts

I have never seen a individual such as Lewis become so hated by other drivers and so many F1 fans, in such a short time. True some of it might be jealously or envy, but I think it is more that Lewis drives with no regard for anyone else some moves he makes might look dramatic but in truth are quite dangerous. I hope I'm wrong but if Lewis doesn't straighten out it might lead to a pretty bad incident in the future. Massa on the other hand has had some controversy especially this weekend, but overall seems to be liked and respected by other drivers. I think that is why so many fans' heart are with Massa winning this year, more then Lewis. As for Alonso helping Massa go for it I am very sure there are quite a few other drivers who will be helping Massa if the opportunity arises...difference is they didn't vocalize it.

jschmitz
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 15:34 View all jschmitz's posts

timem1 how exactly did LH "pip" Alonso last year?? They finished with the same points? Alonso is the best driver out there hands down - Do you really think if Alonso was still at McLaren he wouldn't have like a 20 point lead with all the Ferrari screw ups this year? Look how well he has done in the Renault and its a dog this year. Hamilton make choke it all away again this year he makes really bad track decisions despite his talent. I don't blame Alonso for being pissed off at Ron Dennis when he was on that team they treated the two time world champ like refueler -

biso9700
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 15:24 View all biso9700's posts

I was just done praising alonso when i saw this!, maybe it has been taken out of context!, but "help massa win?", how does he intend on doing that?, allowing massa past then holding hamilton up?, that is race fixing and is ILLEGAL!. Alonso has to be pulled up in front of the FIA and made to explain his comment! Then the minutes to that being publicly published!. should a collision between alonso and hamilton occur in the next 2 races, what will people be left to think?.

oska
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 15:23 View all oska's posts

Thats the way to go Alonso!!!! YES!!!!!!!!

aaborkar
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 15:18 View all aaborkar's posts

Seems like Alonso also does not want Lewis to be WDC. Strange that Ferrari support is coming from outside the team.

timem1
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 15:14 View all timem1's posts

Hamilton pipped Alonso last year. The only "wiping" that went on on '07 were the tears being wiped from Lewis's eyes after he lost to Kimi in Brazil. Had the championship in the bag and BLEW it! lol

chickv
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 14:54 View all chickv's posts

If he need to impress Ferrari that badly, he should slow down in Fuji & crash out kubica & himself so Kimi in his Ferrari can snatch their win...same like the FIA-really steward stealing Boudais point to help Massa. Perhaps then, Luca will accept the reject into their circus orgainsatioin!

the_dude2
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 14:40 View all the_dude2's posts

sydjed, did you watch the race, did you listen to the commentry when it was explained? No i havent read your comment as i cant be bothered - just in case you stated you didnt weatch it. Alonso is an idiot, he does himself no favours at all. He got his ass wiped by hamilton last year and just couldnt handle it, and he still cant. what a schumck.

GSURF
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 14:37 View all GSURF's posts

This is how Alonso wants to get back to Hamilton for making him look silly last season. What comes around goes around!

galengrassi
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 14:20 View all galengrassi's posts

Quit while your ahead Alonso. Just keep quiet and enjoy your well deserved victory. You were beginning to impress peopl with what seemed a more mature outlook...then you go say something like this? How do propose helping the midget Massa?

foxy
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 13:57 View all foxy's posts

Sydjed, you obviously don't know anything about f1 rules. There was method in the madness. As Lewis was a lap down when Alonso started the last lap, he would not be aloud to complete the last lap. By un-lapping himself, he put himself in with a chance of scoring points had any of the point scoring drivers retired during the final lap. So it wasn't such a daft move after all. Eh???

rubymurray
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 13:35 View all rubymurray's posts

sydjed, Hamilton was entitled to overtake Alonso and un-lap himself because if drivers in front of him crashed or broke down, he could have scored points, you can't if your a lap down, understand the rules before criticising. Alonso is still bitter after being completely overshadowed by rookie hamilton the previous year, he expected preferential treatment but because he didn't get it and was slower than hamilton all season, he threw his toys out the pram and sulked, what an immature moron! Massa and Ferrari get enough help from the stewards and the FIA, I don't think they need any help from Alonso!

parisdakar
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 13:21 View all parisdakar's posts

Heh heh.

johnbt
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 13:09 View all johnbt's posts

I thought Lewis has calmed down knowing the championship is closer to his hand. But, you can't change the spots of a leopard. What a shame, making so many enemies even before being crowned. I don't think Alonso is alone here, there are quite a few which I'm sure you can figure out. But at least Alonso is honest about it (he has to bear the brunt by saying it, that's bravery). Work his nerves up - he will surely falter. Lewis does not deserve the crown in my opinion. What's next, more driving and engine gremblins, look what happened to Kovi. Maybe all will happen at the same time. Anyway I haven't been a fan of Lewis, honestly!

magickatt
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 12:53 View all magickatt's posts

Full quote appears to be "I didn't know why he (Hamilton) had been penalised. After last year, I want Ferrari to win. I will help Massa if I can."

michaell
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 12:48 View all michaell's posts

My God, Alonso may be a great driver but so immature. If this report is true, it confirms that he's still pissed off at the way Hamilton blew him away last year. Shame, do you remember how Alnoso outbreaked himself on a few occasions and ran onto the grass at the start in his fruitless efforts to keep ahead of the rookie.

sydjed
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 12:44 View all sydjed's posts

No dleese1, Lewis is even enemies with his own ego. Every other driver on the grid is critical of this "i do my talking on the track". Now he has a lot of other drivers after his b*t coz of his attitude and lack of respect to others i.e. was it really necesary for him to recklessly overtake Alonso on the last corners. Alonso was lucky not to have been punted off the track. This guy can't drive.

jamjarjem
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 12:33 View all jamjarjem's posts

After the way Alonso was treated last year is anyone really suprised?! It's like being back at school!!!

lumpy_idle
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 12:30 View all lumpy_idle's posts

Now I think PF1 are writing these articles to spark a response from the readers. This has to be a joke. I would like to see the full interview. Alonso hardly "VOWED" to help Massa.

dleese1
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 12:24 View all dleese1's posts

FA knows that if he was still at mclaren he would have wrapped this title up by now, and i'm sure he would have done. Also, helping massa win the title wouldn't harm his chances of getting a ferrari drive somewhere down the line. Overall I can't help feeling that Lewis making enemies with the best driver in F1 was a little bit foolish.

maschinesturmer
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 12:11 View all maschinesturmer's posts

HAHAHAHHAHA this will be very very funny! If it actually takes place. First I don't think anything "evil" is being plotted, because then the FIA will be on Alonso's ass... and don't anyone think that there will be no consequences because hte FIA is pro-Ferrari bla bla bla... BUT I can easily see a scenario where Alonso is second and Massa third, and sort of faking a slow lap... just like team orders! Then no one can really catch Alonso. Thing is Hamilton doesn't know that leaving enemies such as Alonso on the track can be harmful to him, I don't mean that Alonso is an angel, but that animosity should be dealt with.

kukka
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 11:52 View all kukka's posts

This gose to show what a low class, evil, stupid and ungrateful idiot FA is. No doubt that he is a good racer. But is he a good human ? NO WAY !!!! If anyone needed any proof, this is it. Mr. FA, today I lost the last bit of respect I had for you. You are nothing but a bogus racer just like the actors we see on WWE !

DarkDefender
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 11:25 View all DarkDefender's posts

My lord, quite alot was said in that article, but predictably the headline was quite selective. I've not seen the original article, but I'd bet that the comment about helping Massa came in response to the question "would you help Massa?" and not "who would you prefer to help given the choice between massa and hamilton" or similar. Either way, that would prove to be an amazing spectacle, Alonso holding Hamilton up while letting Massa glide past him. The press's collective head would probably explode.

SoLoS389
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 11:24 View all SoLoS389's posts

Hey does that mean that he will do anything to Help Massa? Whow Hamilton needs to be careful now. The two drivers might be plotting something against him, anything is possible if you are part of the team that goes by the name of Ferrari

mayrossy
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 11:23 View all mayrossy's posts

mmm. not sure you should be saying that alonso (if you accidently take hamilton out now we will have whingeing Ron crying unfair in the press again) .. but at least its giving Mclaren a big "V" about the way they treated you! lol

PeterBFree
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 11:22 View all PeterBFree's posts

Yes Fernando you ran cause you knew you could not beat Hamilton in equal cars. Now you are afraid he will be a greater champion than you!

eggnham
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 11:20 View all eggnham's posts

that is just such a wrong thing for him to say .. in fact i'd say it's scandalous & worthy of some sort of punishment from the FIA .... How bitter can one man be ?? ... But then we all know that Alonso will stoop to anything to get one over on Lewis including cheating such as having illegally obtained information for his own benefit & threatening to blackmail the team if he doesn't get his own way .... A true double world champion ... a liar & a cheat ... spain must be very proud.

RichardW
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 11:15 View all RichardW's posts

OMG..how childish. Grow up Fernando and put the past behind you. Also Massa does not need help, Hamilton is blowing it all by himself!!

Buffy
Posted 13/10/2008 @ 11:14 View all Buffy's posts

Oh come ON PF1. You retracted this story then got an illiterate 3 year old to write it again. What is with all the spelling mistakes? Why re write it? I get it, it is more anti Alonso this way ;)

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