He also eats too much sour grapes.
I am getting reports that Rubhino eats too much pudding.
the perfect number 2
Too late now, Red Bull will be winning from here on in and maybe Jense might snag the odd win.
Hey! Nice guys DO finish first.....if they're as good as Mika Hakkinen, anyway. Rubens isn't that good, so he will lose hehe.
Rubens is a nice guy...but nice guys don't finish first.
Looks like Nick Fry wants to distribute some wins... and he is looking for the suitable candidate who "deserves" this.... What kind of talk is this..... The one who deserves to win, wins it on the race track... if you dont know it is, then start tuning in a Sunday afternoon.
There is no race winner who doesn't deserve it. May it be weather, mishaps, or errors of other drivers, the winner wins because he is skilled enough to survive. Rubens gets what he deserves. Sadly it is not race wins.
Hey! Rubens is my countryman! If anyone deserves a win he does - but he will earn it, never you mind. That's the way we are! Back off the boy!
@Nevermind dont you think if RB wasnt 2nd to MS he would have been champion?I.E Eddie Irvine didnt win a race but come a close 2nd.The most expirienced driver in F1 give him some credit mate.
I fear for Rubens. Maybe it's me but I think this is the type of thing a team would come out with before giving a driver the bad news they are not needed anymore? I hope I am wrong. I like Rubens.
"@joco. Oh come on! to paraphrase, 'Rubens deserves to win because they can make him win just as they do with Jenson, but they won't'..................'they will LET him win once or twice' This sound like the notes for a cheap conspiracy novel "We'll let him win but not yet" If Rubens drives fast enough he'll end up on pole position and stand a good chance of winning! If he doesn't, it wasn't because 'They didn't let him, the guy'a a FORMULA ONE driver. They, as a breed WANT TO WIN. He is one of the best drivers in the world (and I'd love to see him win in Brasil), but unfortunately he's not THE best. The best is still to be decided, but I doubt it will be he, but I'll suggest that Ross Brawn is working his socks off for a one-two in the drivers championship, and the Constructors. I think he'll get the first and third, but he wont get the second (Rubens) because "They didn't let him!!?" As "@low_flying_kiwi says SIMPLES.
your right forgot he switch to Jordon my sincere apology it was Trulli the other Italian I was thinking about, 8 points over 2 year end.. with a B-Spec chassis, duff shoulder.. I still think Drama Queen still springs to mind.. If i was to stand on your soap box and looking back Jenson must be having the last laugh, even compared before this season he's achived more than Fisi.. so it wouldn't be fair to compare apples with oranges.. thats my point..
Nah Bresho, your still over dramatizing again.
oh and BTW polomint, Fisi was with Jordan in 2002, and Button was with Renault!!!!! i.e. they were not team-mates in 2002! Get your facts straight, Fisi did beat ALL his team-mates until Alonso!
polomint, excuse me for being a drama queen for thinking that when a driver beats his team-mate 11 to 6 on race day, 13 to 4 in qualifying, with 7 of those by more than .8 seconds, 3 by more than 1 second, and once by almost 2 seconds (at SPA), and outscores him 8 to 2, and scores the only podium for the team (and a brilliant one it was) equates to one driver being destroyed by the other!
As I've often said, the playing field is much more even this year with qualifu=ying times betwen first and last place much closer than they have ever been before...Even Force India is only about a second off the pace...With that said, the differences then come down to the ability of the drivers. I think that Rubens is more than able to win races in the Brawn, and will do so before the end of the year. it just comes down to luck, and Jenson as had it this year while Rubens has had less...BUT, he IS still second in points, so don't count him out yet! Both Jenson and Rubens have proved themselves as capable of winning in F1 as any other drivers...AND, with Ross Brawn calling the shots in the pits, the duo has an advantage other teams wish they could have!
I am so sick of the stories of how much Rubens deserve but never accomplish. Well, he gets what he deserves.
Looks like he needs to stop yawning first hehe.
Yes, he does, but, can he or better yet, will they let him
I'd like to see Rubens win, if only to remove that permanently miserable look on his face that your picture captures nicely. Actually I'm sure its not always like that given that he is widely acknowledged to be the nicest guy on the grid. I think that Max-Headroom is right and he does have a "support driver" mindset. But I also think that he is more likely to be the author of his own misfortune, rather than the victim of any cynical manipulation at Brawn. If he'd had the cojones to stand up for himself at Ferrari, or leave, he may not feel the same paranoia that seems to plague him now. Still, he's a lovely chap and I'd be pleased to see him smiling atop the podium soon.
Rubbish they don't make ANYONE win !!! Muppet! Rubens only deserves to win a race when he crosses the finish line first. That being said I am sure it will happen this season. We know that Massa will never win again after next year and strangely he will be off the pace forever, that will be in Alonso's contract just like it was for all his other partners well except for Hamilton hahahahahahaha
He uses the word "deserves" because they can make him win, just as they do with Jenson. But they won't. They want Jenson to be the new "superstar" of F1, not Rubens. They will let him win once or maybe twice this year at most. But they will never let him challenge Jenson's title. Rubens: I know you are worth to be in any BIG team. They know it too, and they know they can't develop the car without you. That is why they are saying this to the press. Keep silent and think that many teams would like to have you with them.
bresho you missed out a lot of FACT, so allow me to add them in. I'd like to point out Fisi (to whom i rated once as a great driver) did beat Jenson in 2001 respectively (his second year), Jenson was driving a B-Spec B200 car for most of the year (as Flav/Renault do) with no Power steering and a serious amount of under-development, while this wasn't the issue he was suffering with a serious shoulder injury and had to have cortisone injections before each race. Button scored 2 point to Fisi's 8 is that being DESTORYED maybe if your a drama queen. In 2002 (when Benetton became Renault) Jensons fitness levels where to the level they should have been, Jenson scored 14 points in 2002, Fisi's scored 7 Jenson just missed a podium due to a suspension failure But.. Didn¿t you say Fisi beat ALL his drivers until Alonso? I have to agree with you on the last part, last years Honda was poor, and given the car Barichello got the most out of that car as you pointed, but not the year before Jenson scored 6 point Barichello 0. In 2008 though ultimately due to his style of driving and you quite rightly pointed this out Barichello out performed Jenson and you touched on driving style, for such that Jenson is a smooth driver, Barichello is an aggressive driver. Is it because Barichello is better than Button? Or is it because Button couldn¿t be bothered or is it simply because the car responds differently to the way a driver drives it? You can change a car/setup but you cannot change a racing drivers style hence why you set the car up to the driver style and some chassis out of the box suite some driver from the very beginning Jensons style of driving and a good car make him a perfect combination. Barichello deserves are win? I wouldn¿t put it like that, Winners are winners, will Barichello win a race this year? No doubt and then it will be deserved.
I've only seen the Brawns side by side once.If Rubens can have a blinding start on the remaining races he could win.It doesn't end there at the start,he has to put in the fastest lap after fastest lap to either pull away or catch the guy in front.The pitwall tells him,he needs to up his race pace more than JB and Vettel.He has been racing long enough to know what he needs to do.Like JB said at Silverstone,Rubens set his car up better than I did.So he can do it but the winning instinct has got to be there.
HungarianHunter, if you knew anything about F1 racing, in fact about racing in general, you would know that no 2 drivers drive the same, and that there are always going to be drivers who feel more comfortable with a certain kind of car than another. Just look at Fisi: until that guy got partnered with Alonso at Renault, he had beaten every team-mate he had had, including your boy Jenson, which he DESTROYED in 2001! In 2002, he was voted by his peers (fellow F1 drivers) as the best driver in F1, and Michael Schumacher was still active in those days! Then he gets into the 2005 Renault, which was obviously not to his liking and was a difficult car to drive (as attested to by Trulli and Villeneuve among others), and it's like he's a different driver. Look at how much better Barichello did than Jenson in last year's car. This year the situation is reversed. Different cars, different behaviors, different results by different drivers with different driving styles! There is so much more to racing than you are suggesting!
"Infamy, Infamy, They've all got it Infamy" I feel really sorry for Rubens Barrichello, he seems to have the mind-set that he is in a way a "support driver". I doubt whether Ross Brawn or anyone else has told him that he is there just to guard Jenson Button's ar*e ( Not Yet anyway). His own pit team have not been told to make sure that he comes second or worse. His car is not being "spiked" His pit team, as Button's pit team are doing all that they can to make sure that he wins. It's a mind-set thing!.. If you look around the drivers you'll surely see the one that have the "Win Thing" Vettel, Webber. Alonso, Button Trulli and others but some seem to think that it's their place NOT to win and then make excuses (sometimes "reasons" but often excuses)..It must be so hard to instill in a driver that "Pure Greed" to win. YES it takes a good car, YES it takes a great support network, but, most importantly it needs a seroiusly determined attitude by all. Ross Brawn wants to win the championship! Not for Button, Not for Barrichello but for Team BRAWN! All the other teams want the same thing for "their" team and for "their" car within their team. Their are no second-best mechanics. They MUST have the same need to win as does their driver otherwise they wouldn't be there. F1 does NOT employ second best anyone, or use second best anything, That's why (in spite of the FIA) it's FORMULA ONE
Maybe he would win a race if he does better in QUALY and practices his starts!!!! but i dont have anything against him just he says this car doesnt "suit me", well it suits jenson so why shouldnt it suit him??
"Deserves a win"? How's that? You could say "I would like to see him win". Until Rubens on the day is faster than the whole field oh yes and his concrete roadsign of a team mate......without boning the start or crashing into people or telling us what he should have done here and there..... and crosses the finish, not lap twelve, in the lead than he doesn't deserve a thing. Bloody hand wringing twaddle!
deserve has got nothing to do with it, this is F1 he needs to get it together on the track, which I'm sure he still has the talent to do.
Rubens is a Dude and deserves the top step !!
WHY because he is a nice guy???? DRIVE FASTER and quit crying...
"ruben deserves a win." what?? just about everyone deserves a win, I deserve a f1 win but a win kind of works likes this: a car helps, so you need a car, a faster car than anyone else is imperative, and then then drive it w/o screwing up. oh, and get lucky. rubens has the car, so good with that, faster car for most of the season, check, but has made a whopper of things at times, ooops, and not been very lucky when he did drive w/o error. summary, he has had chances and not gotten it done. that's racing which cares NAUGHT about the deservers. for instance, do kimi and hamilton deserve the money they get?? of course not.
Zhuk; Nice to see someone giving Rubens the credit he deserves. He is a very talented driver and is still easily in the top half of the current crop of F1 drivers.
I would like to see him win at least one before the end of the year. He does deserve it, and Brazil would be sweetest...
Just drive faster than all the other guys Rubens..as our friend the Meercat would say 'simples'.
Rubens is a good number 2 and excellent at developement, but a regular winner afraid not!
Dear Rubens .. There is so many young talent drivers waiting in wing because people like you wants go care on when it's time to retire you had your chance and joy in f1 so give it away for the sake of new generation , vettel was almost a baby when you start racing but now you fighting with him on the grid , I know you are a great driver but also a great driver knows when to stop it's brokes my heart when I see crying for victorious and so on... Give it away
Rubens has had a brilliant year and has shown he has what it takes to stay in F1 for a few more years at least! Brawn owe much to his experience and skill to this years success!
He has a car capable of winning, but seems incapable of beating the other person who has the same machinery. As long as Jenson keeps his form, Rubens doesn't really stand much of a chance. Even with Brawn's genius strategy, he still manages to come only 2nd because he just doesn't seem able to put the work in whenever he is asked to.
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Posted 05/07/2009 @ 10:53 View all rattymouse's posts
Excellent point Snake. My daily Rubhino reports did not mention that but I can certainly believe it. My souces just confirmed that Rubhino eats about 2 to 2.5 liters of pudding per day. That is too much in this reporters view.